Can't see a Control's Value above the Slider...??

[teddy]

Dear Turbe:

I was able to use Controlcal last night with my Kuro 151. I input D-Nice's settings. Everything went well except the color management settings did not display on the Controlcal interface. I was able to input the number settings but they did not show up on the sliders as did all the other settings. Is this a known problem?

Another question, D-Nice has listed all the gamma settings as zeros. Is this really what he found or did he feel that these settings are peculiar to individual TVs and therefore should not be published? It seems that you guys are being a little mysterious about the gamma settings.

Thanks for your time.
Maret

[Turbe]

except the color management settings did not display on the Controlcal interface. I was able to input the number settings but they did not show up on the sliders as did all the other settings. Is this a known problem?

I want to first verify which specific Controls you are having this problem with. COLOR MANAGEMENT RYGCBM or RGB-HIGHs/RGB-LOWs?

Also, what did you set the COLOR TEMP Control value to? It should be set to 6. See: http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1436&postcount=3

Do you have Error Dialogs Disabled/Unchecked (MENU/SETTINGS)?

In the ControlCAL Terminal Window, do you see any lines that show that an Error Code was received from the Display (or similar message)?

When you say "input the numbers", I assume you entered the value in the White rectangle box next to the Control and Pressed the SEND Button next to that Control, correct? Note: You can also move the Slider to the value you want and Press the SEND Button or if you have Auto Send enabled (MENU/SETTINGS), you can just move the Slider and the value will be sent automatically each time the Slider is moved.

Perhaps I'm not clear what you mean with; "they did not show up on the sliders as did all the other settings".

Another question, D-Nice has listed all the gamma settings as zeros. Is this really what he found or did he feel that these settings are peculiar to individual TVs and therefore should not be published? It seems that you guys are being a little mysterious about the gamma settings.

For D-Nice's Elite, he didn't have to change the default 9-Point Gamma Settings.. see his Post(s) above (http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1590&postcount=8) and below (http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1599&postcount=17).. :D

From reports (including from D-Nice), it looks like Pioneer has made some positive changes to the ISFccc Interface in the 9G's.

Only if you use a meter with additional software (i.e ColorHCFR and/or CalMAN) will you be able to know if your 9PG is properly set.

[teddy]

I want to first verify which specific Controls you are having this problem with. COLOR MANAGEMENT RYGCBM or RGB-HIGHs/RGB-LOWs?

Color management RYGCBM.

Also, what did you set the COLOR TEMP Control value to? It should be set to 6. See: http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1436&postcount=3

Set to 6. However COLOR TEMP should not affect setting the Color Management values.

Do you have Error Dialogs Disabled/Unchecked (MENU/SETTINGS)?

Only HEX INPUT is checked.

In the ControlCAL Terminal Window, do you see any lines that show that an Error Code was received from the Display (or similar message)?

No errors are reported in the com window.

When you say "input the numbers", I assume you entered the value in the White rectangle box next to the Control and Pressed the SEND Button next to that Control, correct? Note: You can also move the Slider to the value you want and Press the SEND Button or if you have Auto Send enabled (MENU/SETTINGS), you can just move the Slider and the value will be sent automatically each time the Slider is moved.

Perhaps I'm not clear what you mean with; "they did not show up on the sliders as did all the other settings".

Yes, I entered the value in the White rectangle box next to the Control and Pressed the SEND Button next to that Control. However, after I press the SEND Button the value in the box disappears (I assume this is normal). However,the value does not appear above the slider, e.g. COLOR MANAGEMENT R :____. Also the zero value is not visible at any time even when opening the program. According to your screen shot, I should see "COLOR MANAGEMENT R : 0"

Otherwise everything seems to work as expected. BTW, does ContrlCal require that the screen resolution on my computer monitor be any particular size. This might explain what I am not seeing.
Thanks for your help.

[Turbe]

BTW, does ControlCal require that the screen resolution on my computer monitor be any particular size. This might explain what I am not seeing.

Interesting.. I have not seen this personally or heard of anyone else experiencing this. I would try changing resolution.

Also, what Font Size is Windows Set for? Can you try another Windows Color Scheme, Theme, Font Size or Resolution?

Can you post a screen shot?

[teddy]

Turbe:
The attached file will show what I mean. The zeros at the end of the red arrows are what I DON"T see.
Teddy

[Turbe]

Are they always showing 0 (zero) or is there no value shown after colon? EDIT: nvm, I re-read your previous post, nothing is shown

What happens when you move the Slider?

I have no clue why this is happening and I am even more puzzled that it only happens with those 6 Controls??!! :confused:

What O/S and DirectX Versions do you have?

[teddy]

Are they always showing 0 (zero) or is there no value shown after colon?

What happens when you move the Slider?

No value is shown. Slider moves but still no value.

I cannot increase the size of the window that the ControlCal is in. Also the "Start Calibration" button reads "tart Calibratio." This is why I think has to do with resolution. Although I played with changing the monitor resolution but it did not help.

[Turbe]

Is your Font Size set to Normal? Usually, there are 3 options: Normal, Large Fonts, Extra Large Fonts

Check Appearance under Display Properties.

What is your screen resolution and color depth?

[teddy]

Is your Font Size set to Normal? Usually, there are 3 options: Normal, Large Fonts, Extra Large Fonts

Check Appearance under Display Properties.

What is your screen resolution and color depth?

Font size is Normal, screen resolution=1280x1024, color depth = highest 32 bit, DPI setting =120. I am running Windows XP, SP3. DirectX version=9.0c

[Turbe]

Try 96 dpi and/or 1024x768 (though I don't think the screen size is the problem)

[teddy]

Try 96 dpi and/or 1024x768 (though I don't think the screen size is the problem)

I tried that already. Didn't help.

[Turbe]

Can you try changing the Windows Theme and/or Color Scheme?

I have not tried ControlCAL on SP3 but I am pretty sure there shouldn't be any issues with that.

Restart Windows?

[teddy]

Can you try changing the Windows Theme and/or Color Scheme?

I have not tried ControlCAL on SP3 but I am pretty sure there shouldn't be any issues with that.

Restart Windows?

I have not been able fix this problem. It seems to be associated with the Kuro profile because the generic profile for ControlCal looks OK. I see the same problem on my laptop.

Is it possible there is a problem with the non-professional version of the profile which is not seen on the professional version. You, no doubt, are using the professional version? Just a thought.

[Turbe]

I use many Keys for testing and to verify them. Currently, I activated a recent Registered Key.

Are you in North America? If not, where do you live (I'm curious if you are running a non-western locale code base).

Can you take a Screen Cap and post here - Press the Prt Scr Button, run MS Paint and Press Ctrl-V (or use Paste from the Menu).

What Video Card is in both computers? Drivers up to date?

I'll send out a broadcast email and ask if anyone else is experiencing this issue.

[surething]

Dear Turbe:

I was able to use Controlcal last night with my Kuro 151. I input D-Nice's settings. Everything went well except the color management settings did not display on the Controlcal interface. I was able to input the number settings but they did not show up on the sliders as did all the other settings. Is this a known problem?

Another question, D-Nice has listed all the gamma settings as zeros. Is this really what he found or did he feel that these settings are peculiar to individual TVs and therefore should not be published? It seems that you guys are being a little mysterious about the gamma settings.

Thanks for your time.
Maret


Teddy

if you did not set Color Temp to Manual (6) BEFORE pulling parameters from TV set (before REFRESH), then you may run into such situation. Otherwise, I've never seen it myself working with ControlCal. Sorry. :(

I hope it might help. :)

surething

LX5090
ControlCal RC1 1.41 v.20

[teddy]

I use many Keys for testing and to verify them. Currently, I activated a recent Registered Key.

Are you in North America? If not, where do you live (I'm curious if you are running a non-western locale code base).

Can you take a Screen Cap and post here - Press the Prt Scr Button, run MS Paint and Press Ctrl-V (or use Paste from the Menu).

What Video Card is in both computers? Drivers up to date?

I'll send out a broadcast email and ask if anyone else is experiencing this issue.

I have a Dell with Pentium 4, 1.90 GHz, 256 RAM, GeForce3 Ti 200. The laptop is my work computer and is quite different (HP).

I don't seem to be able to post an image or attach a file.

[surething]

I don't seem to be able to post an image or attach a file.

Teddy

if you have an issue with attaching the file or posting an image there is a major issue there with your email software and/or system in general.

I would suggest a major review of your system health. I mean, Windows register first - healthcheck for integrity, antivirus and antibug software second - make sure you are clean, hard drive health etc, etc.

If your email agent keeps on does not working despite overall health of the system - reinstal it (email software) but first archive any important emails you had!

After that, when everything works well - systemwise - I would suggest re-install your ControlCal. Before that, however, make sure your system is clean and healthy, however.

There is over 50 people around using ControCal soft (or more) and we did not seem to run into the situation you depicted.

What language is your Windows XP, though? Maybe it is an Unicode issue if it is far East - for example, but very unlikely.

surething

[Turbe]

I don't seem to be able to post an image or attach a file.

Click Post Reply
Click Manage Attachments (under Attach Files)
Click Browse (under Upload File from your Computer)

After selecting the file/pic, Click Upload.

I have a Dell with Pentium 4, 1.90 GHz, 256 RAM, GeForce3 Ti 200. The laptop is my work computer and is quite different (HP).

Checking your PC's Health is a good idea, you should be doing this on a regular basis.

Do both computers have 256mb memory? That is on the low end for XP. This could be the issue, I do recommend 512MB minimum since ControlCAL uses DirectX. Try to unload some applications running in the background/taskbar, i.e. temporary stop/exit/unload any Virus Software.

How much available memory do you see in the Windows Task Manager (CTRL-ALT-DELETE, under the Performance Tab)?

[Turbe]

I changed the number of input slots for uploading attachments, it had been set to 1.

[teddy]

I have a Dell with Pentium 4, 1.90 GHz, 256 RAM, GeForce3 Ti 200. The laptop is my work computer and is quite different (HP).



Enclosed is the screen image.

[Turbe]

You are running a different default System Font and/or Large+ Fonts - the label+value is longer than what has been allocated (I've seen this with Extra Large Fonts).

Under Display Properties, Appearance, Click the Advanced Button.

I think it's "Message Text", what font and size do you show?

I'll do some testing to verify that it's "Message Text" we want.

EDIT: I do believe it's Message Text, however, I believe this requires a Registry Change since it's not an option you can change in Advanced:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310543

Are you running a custom Windows Theme? Can you change back to one of the following for testing (under Appearance/Windows and Buttons and/or Themes)?

Windows XP Style
Windows Classic Style

Please verify that you are using Normal Font Size.

I did not code a specific Font and size for the labels so it would follow your XP Theme.

Here's a XP Theme you can use/try: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2006/11/03/windows-xp-zune-theme/

[zaks]

From the screen grab I would say it's because he's running Windows at 120 DPI (even says "Large size" on the Display Properties option).

teddy: did you reboot after changing to 96 DPI?

Turbe: what are you using to develop ContralCAL? I use Delphi at work and I know that I can force a certain font size for dialogs... but by default it will use the system DPI setting and you will have to make sure your controls scale well with different settings.

[teddy]

From the screen grab I would say it's because he's running Windows at 120 DPI (even says "Large size" on the Display Properties option).

teddy: did you reboot after changing to 96 DPI?

Turbe: what are you using to develop ContralCAL? I use Delphi at work and I know that I can force a certain font size for dialogs... but by default it will use the system DPI setting and you will have to make sure your controls scale well with different settings.

Yes!! I changed to 96 dpi again and this time I rebooted. It worked!:D
My icons are pretty small but at least I can now run ContolCal and see all the buttons, etc. Thanks so much.

[Turbe]

Yes!! I changed to 96 dpi again and this time I rebooted. It worked!:D

:confused:

http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1613&postcount=11

:)

[teddy]

:confused:

http://www.controlcal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1613&postcount=11

:)

I had to reboot. The first time I didn't.